WA-Sen: Murray, Rossi Look to Advance From Primary

SurveyUSA for KING-TV (6/25-28, likely voters, no trendlines):

Patty Murray (D-inc): 37

Dino Rossi (R): 33

Clint Didier (R): 5

Others: 6

Undecided: 19

(MoE: ±4.4%)

SurveyUSA is doing a couple things right with their newest poll of Washington: first, they’re looking at Washington’s “top two” primary, which is the first hurdle that Patty Murray and Dino Rossi have to clear. (Their only previous poll of this race was of the November general election; the only public poll of the race to have shown a Rossi lead, it was declared, pretty much by universal consensus, to be an outlier.)

In not much of a surprise, considering that Murray is the only legitimate Democrat while Rossi has to fight off a teabagger challenge from Clint Didier, Murray has a single-digit lead. Note that Rossi + Didier is about equal to Murray (although maybe not every Didier voter will shift to Rossi in November, as the state’s movement conservatives seem a lot more lukewarm about Rossi than they did two years ago, when he was the vehicle for their “we wuz robbed” indignation)… presaging a close general election race, though. (They also painstakingly list all 15 candidates, including perpetual perennial candidates like Mike the Mover and the mighty GoodSpaceGuy… who, despite his fondness for things technological, doesn’t seem to have his own website.)

The other thing that SurveyUSA is doing is adding cellphones to the mix here, despite the added expense of having to use a call center with live callers to reach cellphone users (owing to laws prohibiting auto-dialing cellphones). This is an issue I’ve groused about a lot, and it’s one where the distortion, I’ve always believed, is particularly pronounced in Washington (where the 18-34 year old set is particularly liberal, and also where they tend to be the tech-savvy early-adopters who would be the first to cast off the shackles of their landlines), so I want to offer SurveyUSA props for doing so.

Interestingly, though, the addition of cellphone users doesn’t seem to make much of a difference in the overall numbers. SurveyUSA offers a variety of different models with varying cellphone composition, and Murray always has a 4 or 5 point lead. With no cellphones in the mix, Murray’s up 39-34, and with cellphones comprising 30% of the mix, she leads 37-32. And most puzzlingly, 18-34 year olds are still the only age group in the crosstabs who favor Rossi (albeit narrowly, 33-28, while even those cynical members of Generation X opt for Murray, 40-26). So maybe, in the same way that they can’t be bothered to fill out their Census forms, Seattle’s urban hipsters still can’t be bothered to respond to phone calls from pollsters either.

17 thoughts on “WA-Sen: Murray, Rossi Look to Advance From Primary”

  1. the republican is winning the 18-34 year old demographic. And it is the Republican’s best sub-group.

    While this may not affect the overall numbers, and yes cross-tabs have high MoE, this is clearly becoming a methodology problem.  

  2. http://colonizespace.blogspot….

    Re cellphones, I never give them that much credit.  I don’t think they lean significantly to the left or right, and I don’t justify lukewarm results for us with “they lacked cellphones”.  I guess I might be right on this count.

  3. Yes, 19% shoudl eb undecided in WA-Sen race.  I mena who has ever heard of Patty Murray (their multi-term incumbent senator) and Dino Rossi (Who runs every 4 years for governor).

    I’m guessing most Washingtonians might not know their names, positions and so on.

    Good grief, can we just put an end to polling once and for all.  Its become sad.

  4. Washington cell only users aren’t just found among 18-34 year olds. An increasing percentage of Washington’s snow birds are cell-only, too.

    The only thing that surprises me about the Survey USA poll is the low level of support for Didier. I’ve been seeing his signs on artiels and in yards for weeks now and expected his support number to be in the 10-15% range.

  5. I heard that Louisiana is actually planning to return to this voting system after adopting the standard primary. I can understand why. It will save a state more money to have just one primary for all parties instead of holding two separate ones that will double the costs.  

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