North Carolina GOP Redistricting, 7-6 D-R

This is my first diary and one of a handful I might post regarding potential GOP redistricting scenarios.  True to my Democratic nature, I’ve tried to be reasonable which is reason enough for folks to scoff at this as a GOP plan!

Based on all the legal history surrounding North Carolina redistricting and our VRA requirements, alot of which has been mentioned by me and others in comments recently, I don’t think we will see much change at all unless counties are absolutely butchered.  

My first thoughts and main goals (thinking like a Republican) were to either shore up Ellmers, increase the African-American percentages in our VRA districts and try to take out either Kissell or McIntyre; I think its nearly impossible to do both.

So, I believe in the end we’ll probably remain very close to our 7-6 D/R margin in the House.  

First District (Blue) – 40% White, 52% Black (old 43/50); 67% Obama, 32% McCain (old 63-37).

The biggest change here is taking this district towards Durham.  Why Durham and not Raleigh? Geography.  In order to get enough densely populated African-Americans and allow the 2nd to take in more GOP areas of Outer Wake, I had to take the First down to Durham.  Even when I did this from a Democratic perspective, the district had to grow and without going below 50% and cutting more counties, going to Durham was the only way to go.

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Second District (Green) – 68% White, 20% Black (old 58/29); 43% Obama, 57% McCain (old 53-47).

This district saw the biggest demographic changes outside the VRA districts.  This is due to removing the African-American parts of Cumberland and Wake.  Its important to remember, though, that a Democrat could still win here, I think, since the Obama margin is probably alot less than that of Hagan or even Perdue. The other question to remember here is whether or not the GOP will even want to try to shore up Ellmers.  The former tobacco fields-turned-subdivisions of Harnett, Johnston and Franklin Counties are the “identity” of this district.  Harnett is growing rapidly due to BRAC realignment at Fort Bragg and Johnston (and Franklin, somewhat) are growing due to their proximity to Raleigh.  Per usual, this exurban growth is not good for Democrats. Also, this slices Rocky Mount and Wilson between their white and black parts of town. Finally, this swaps the heavily GOP and more Democratic parts of Sampson County with the current drawing helping to pad the GOP margin.

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Third District (Purple) – 72% White, 19% Black (old 75/16); 40% Obama, 59% McCain (old 38/62).

This district doesn’t change much in terms of scope.  The far northeast is growing rapidly due to spillover from Virginia Beach.  Much of the local Democratic bench is either wiped out or headed that way. The “Inner Banks” region of the state is in this – folks who buy homes on the rivers and sounds.  It’s also growing and not in our favor. While this became slightly more Democratic, its Jones’ as long as he wants it and he’ll most likely be followed up by an even more conservative Republican.

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Fourth District (Red) – 70% White, 18% Black (old 66/19); 56% Obama, 43% McCain (old 62/37).

This district sees a number of geographic and somewhat minor demographic changes.  While it reduces the Obama margin from before, I think alot of the previous Obama margin was due to suburban voters.  This, I think this version of the 4th is equally safe for Price and removes the chance that a young, suburban Republican like Lawson can challenge him.  Although he is a young 70, should he want to retire I think another Democrat could win here easily.  There isn’t much of a GOP bench here save for Alamance and Rockingham Counties. The identity of the district is still centered around the Western Triangle.

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Fifth District (Yellow) – 84% White, 8% Black (old 85/7); 40% Obama, 59% McCain (old 38/61).

Minimal changes here – the addition of Northern Rowan County is really it.  This bastion of diversity belongs to good old Virginia Foxx (emphasis on old). It got slightly more Democratic but really shouldn’t be trouble for her.  Many folks have been voting for her since 1994 when she first won a State Senate seat that went across the northern counties (the most Democratic in this district). Her margins until this year have been slightly underwhelming compared to other Republicans.  However, when she retires, a good GOP candidate can old it.  PS – some guess that she’ll retire after her 5th term (2012 election) because at that point she’ll be eligible for her federal pension after ten years of service (she probably already gets a state pension for her work in higher education).  Gotta love those ‘true conservatives.’

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Sixth District (Teal – 76% White, 13% Black (old 82/10); 40% Obama, 59% McCain (old 36/63).

This district keeps its central-state identity with the focus on Greensboro.  It got more Democratic because it absorbed Democratic parts of Greensboro tht are currently in the 13th.  But, the biggest change here is that it puts Kissell from Montgomery County in with Coble of Greensboro.  Like Walter Jones always does, and Patrick McHenry has done, he could easily run and win in the neighboring new 8th (below) with no incumbent.  Howard Coble, who shows no signs of slowing down at age 119, could easily slam Kissell in this district.

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Seventh District (Gray) – 63% White, 21% Black (old 64/21); 48% Obama, 52% McCain (old 47/52).

No noticeable changes here. I’ll have some other diaries in the future where McIntyre is taken out but this one was done to hurt Kissell.  This district keeps itself as a Southeastern NC anchor.  While one might think Wilmington would be the identity here, no Wilmingtonian has represented this district in many decades. However, with the massive growth in Brunswick County, I would guess that whoever follows or beats McIntyre will be a Republican from the Wilmington area.

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Eighth District (Lavender) – 61% White, 26% Black (old 58/20); 49% Obama, 51% McCain (old 52/47).

This would be Kissell’s district but I drew him out of it so it has no incumbent.  Part of the issue with shoring up Ellmers was removing Fayetteville’s African-American’s from the 2nd; they had to go somewhere so they got put here.  There’s not much choice with that unless you want to put them into the 6th (another diary possibility).  This new district is slightly more GOP than before and with the absurdly massive growth in uber-GOP Union County, this could easily be represented by a Republican who either takes Kissell out or follows him. There are very few white Democrats on the bench here and I’m skeptical a black Democrat could win it.

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Ninth District (Bright Teal) – 73% White, 14% Black (old 77/13); 50% Obama, 49% McCain (old 44/55).

Do not be fooled by the presidential margin here! First of all, yes, it got more Democratic because I removed the white Democratic parts of Charlotte from the 8th. Second of all, I firmly believe that margins for offices below President are most likely more Republican and eastern Gaston County is very Republican itself.  Finally, Sue! (her old signs) Myrick has ridiculous loyalty in Charlotte.  She’ll hold onto this as long as she wants it.

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Tenth District (Magenta) – 81% White, 11% Black (old 83/9); 37% Obama, 62% McCain (old 36/63).

Demographically not much change here.  The major change was removing GOP-yet-Shuler-friendly McDowell County from the 11th and putting it here while sticking very historically GOP Mitchell and Avery Counties in the 11th.  McHenry will have no trouble here despite that fact that there is lingering resentment that a Hickorian (Hickoryite?) does not represent the district as they did for many years before he won.

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Eleventh District (Light Green) – 88% White, 5% Black (old 88/5); 46% Obama, 52% McCain (old 47/52).

As stated in the 10th I swapped Mitchell/Avery and McDowell.  No real changes.  Other than splitting Asheville in half, I don’t see how you can hurt Shuler.  Even if Mitchell/Avery had been a part of his district this year he still would have won.  Folks just like him (including me).

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Twelth District (Light Blue) – 34% White, 49% Black (old 41/44); 74% Obama, 25% McCain (old 71/29).

Not much change here either in terms of shape except that instead of cutting around the edges of Rowan and Davidson Counties, I went right through the middle of Rowan to take in African-American parts of Salisbury. Again, the goal here was to pack as many African-Americans in as possible.  Some people talk of trying to make this more compact but its simply not possible.  At minimum, something like that would be 50-34 white/black.  So, it has to keep its shape.  

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Thirteenth District (Beige) – 64% White, 20% Black (old 60/28); 59% Obama, 40% McCain (old 60/40).

The biggest change here is geography.  I tried to do a Wake-centered district.  It’s tailor-made for Miller and he’ll keep for as long as he wants it. The African-Americans from the current 2nd are placed here.

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Like I said before, I think this won’t result in much change.  I’m working on a number of GOP-centered ideas that could work while working under the confines of legal history, precedent and rules.  

I hope my pictures aren’t too large – this is my first diary and I’m just glad they showed up.  I look forward to seeing what you all think!  

22 thoughts on “North Carolina GOP Redistricting, 7-6 D-R”

  1. and probably the best we can hope for from the GOP legislature.  Despite the previous map being a Dem gerrymander, I dont think they can be too aggressive without weakening themselves badly in the future…North Carolina is changing rapidly and they can’t create too many marginal seats.  I think they’ll do their best to shore up Ellmers, and maybe try to weaken Kissel or McIntyre, but extremely doubtful (as you recognize) that they could do both.  We’re not going to lose 2-3 seats here in 2012 simply due to redistricting, as others have predicted.

    The GOP grabbed most of the low-hanging fruit this year in states where they will have control of redistricting.  And in many of the states (like OH, PA, MI, TX, and FL) the existing maps are already horrible GOP gerrymanders, they can’t do any worse.  In Ohio, which is going to lose 2 seats due to population loss, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be one of theirs as well as one of ours.  Florida and Texas are going to have to probably split their new seats between the parties.

    All in all, I wouldnt be surprised if the only state that actually sees significant turnover due to redistricting is Illinois.

  2. did NC here:

    http://img135.imageshack.us/f/

    Our districts are surprisingly similar, including the Durham addition to NC-1 (im surprised no one else has thought of it). Only difference is i took most of Asheville out of NC-11 and giving Shuler a 58% McCain district. But i checked off the “Use new population est” button and i got 14 districts, so i got an 8-4-2 map, with 8 being GOP, and two tossups including the presumably new NC-14.

  3. Republicans run the risk of spreading themselves too thin if they aim too high. Either McIntyre or Kissell go, they can’t do both and I think they would rather leave one of them in as a Democratic vote sink.

  4. Your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd districts all make sense (although you put Jones’ home in the 1st district). Butterfield keeps a VRA seat, Ellmers or another Republican is more than safe, and Jones basically keeps the same district that he has now.

    Your 4th district is interesting. Price has never had a district that did not include Wake County and in the 1980s the entire county was in the 4th district; however the current part of Wake County in the 4th district is more suburban and Republican than the rest of Wake County–Lawson did well in the Wake County suburbs and that was why the race was as close as it was. You added a lot of territory that Price has never represented before and that was a bit testy for Democrats this year (such as the defeat of Sen. Tony Foriest in Alamance and Caswell Counties and long-time Rep. Nelson Cole of Rockingham County). But because the Obama percentage is so high, I’m not sure whether Price or another Democrat would have trouble here or not.

    Foxx or another Republican would be safe in this 5th district.

    While he would still run in the 6th district (and win), you put Coble’s Summerfield home in the 4th district.

    This is basically the same district that McIntyre currently represents so he would be in office as long as he wanted. Although Southeastern NC is trending Republican so who knows.

    Kissell’s district is very winnable for him under this map–it is not much more Republican than his current district and he could easily just move into the new district lines. Losing the Democratic areas in Charlotte to NC-09 is minimized because he gains many African-American precincts in Cumberland County. If he didn’t run then there are plenty of Democrats who might step up and have a great chance–state Rep. Pryor Gibson (from Anson County), former state Sen. Margaret Dickson (from Cumberland County), or state Commissioner of Insurance Wayne Goodwin (from Richmond County). This district is by no means a lock for Republicans.

    Your 9th district would remain Republican for the near future, and Myrick is personally popular, but it might eventually become more swingy in the future, so I think this iteration is a bit too Democratic. She’s 69 now, so she may or may not still be in office by 2021, which means would Pat McCrory run for the seat as he has long aspired to do, or would incoming House Speaker Thom Tillis run? I agree though that the Obama results are misleading of GOP strength in Mecklenburg County.

    While I don’t think that the Republicans will leave Shuler alone as you did in this map, if they did target him then he might aspire to run for some higher office rather than just being content with his House seat. He is clearly ambitious and would make a strong statewide candidate in a general election. But I still think they will make the district more Republican so that if he retires in the next 10 years (presumably to run for something else) then they can pick up the seat.

    Overall, I think that it is not as strong a gerrymander as they will probably implement since this map essentially protects the incumbents while mildly weakening Price and Kissell, but this was interesting to read and I enjoyed your perspective as a fellow NC resident. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving!

  5. in NC.

    The VRA will be their friend.

    1 & 2 seats will be the current two AA seats adjusted for population–why bother with prefection? These two seats will stay heavily D

    The third and New AA seat will take in AA heavy Scotland and Hoke from the 8th plus the heavy area of AA’s in Cumberland county on in Kissel’s seat. From the 7th you take in Robeson/Bland (both heavy minority counties) plus the AA part of Sampson.  Then you loop through western Harnett county and snake into downtown Raleigh to get the AA population base of Wake county.  This seat will +60% AA.

    The fourth solid D seat is based on Orange and Durham county plus Person & Caswell plus a snakey move in Alamance county similar to current.  Plus you snag what liberal voters you can find in western Wake county

    I leave it up to the GOP experts to do exact lines but the theory holds–Pack and Rack it.  NC cries out for a 3rd Minority seat and you can’t do nothing with Orange and Durham county.  

    For old the 7th you snake through the southern part of Sampson county to get the GOP part of southern Cumberland county then snake around to get Eastern Harnett plus a tad of Wake if you need it.

    Ellmers get Johnson NashFranklin plus the republican part of Wake county.  Lots of republicans in Wake county-40% or so.

    Kissel loses all those democratic voters in the eastern part and picks ups Moore county plus parts of Rowan county on in 6th.  The 6th slides into Chatham and lee but is not affected-still GOP.  The 6th is much less AA and much more GOP. You can fiddle in Mecklenburg county if you need to.

    With the 11th the GOP can fiddle a bit–I would prefer to give Shuler the balance of Rutherford county plus part of western Burke county.  Take away Madison/yancey plus Northern part of Buncombe.  Maybe not half but a good bit.  My sense is that south of Ashville is more GOP then North of Ashville.  You move the seat  4% GOP or so.  You might catch Shuler-you might not.

    Either way in an open seat situation the district would be much more likely to go GOP.

    Rack and Pack for a decent chance for a GOP 9-4.

    Remember the VRA is your friend–if you are GOP

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